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Hello, I was very recently diagnosed with prostate cancer - out of the 12 samples that they took for my prostate biopsy, one of the samples is showing gleason score of 9 (indicating group 5) while a couple others are showing a gleason score of 7 and the remaining are showing a gleason score of under 6. My urologist has suggested a surgery for prostate removal. I was introduced to this by my boss who is following fenben for months now. I see a lot of case studies here about starting fenben while taking radiation treatment or chemo. I would like to get some advice on what my next steps should be. My weight is about 66 Kgs (reside in India) and my surgery is planned in about 4-5 weeks from now. My last PSA level was 18.3 and my MRI shows a 1.4 cm lesion with PIRAD score of 4.

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First of all, sorry about your diagnosis. It’s good that you were introduced to this protocol early on. Nobody can give you a medical advise here. Maybe read about some of the case studies and decide for yourself what you want to do. My family member with a different diagnosis had to do emergency surgery and started protocol right away, turning down chemotherapy.

If you decide to follow these case studies, you might have a chance to reduce your lesion size and possibly avoid surgery. But nothing is guaranteed and everyone’s situation is different. Best wishes to you in treatment and recovery process.

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Thank you for the advise.

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Does anyone know if ivermectin or fenben causes muscle cramping? I recently added both to my Daily supplement intake and I’m struggling with really bad cramping sometimes full leg cramping sometimes just toe cramping. It’s not pleasant at all and I’m not not sure what to do.

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Hi @Ben Fen, these case studis are so wonderful. Where are you getting them? Are they submitted by readers or do you have access as a physician? Thanks for the good work.

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They are unsolicited submissions. Sometimes it’s, “hey, fenben worked for me?” And that’s all we ever hear; no response to emails or requests for more info. Others are relatively complete case reports with only minimal follow up questions. What we are trying to do now is prioritize case reports that involve cancers not previously covered. We are also developing a model to predict which cancers will respond to fenbendazole and how to make unresponsive cancers susceptable to fenben. However, we literally have hundreds of incomplete case reports covering dozens of different types of cancers that are not suitable for publication due to incomplete, necessary information. If anyone reading this has the question “does fenben works with fill-in-the-blank cancer” chances are most likely the answer is yes. Email us at myfenbendazole@proton.me and we can forward what we know about the cancer of interest.

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SEE The Vigilant Fox substack May 15 "Cancer Surgeon Drops IVM Bombshell." Dr Kathleen Ruddy shares several testimonials of IVM accomplishing dramatic recoverings, two of which were these: "one patient was on his deathbed...stage 4 prostate cancer" had tried all the conventional protocols and told there was nothing else they could do. "He started taking IVM, within 6 months, the metastatic lesions began to disappear, and in less than a year, 'he was out dancing for 4 hours' 3 nights per week.

Another was diagnosis of "two unresectable esophageal tumors that surgeons wouldn't go near... He couldn't swallow, and had lost 40 pounds." A couple weeks later after IVM "He sounded stronger, he could swallow, had gained six pounds.'" Several weeks after that, he got the scan Dr Ruddy recommended. "NO TUMORS. Gone. Gone." :)

On that note, please pray for my husband, BHP (enlarged prostate, PSA 4) had to go to ER early Thrs a.m. had not been able to urinate other than dribbles 8.5 hrs, bladder intense pain. They catheterized, 1200 ml (40 oz) urine! Bladders burst between 1000-1500, but the on call nurse we'd spoken to at 7pm Wed evening, made it seem more like a UTI, and didn't stress YOU GET HIM INTO ER IF THE 16 OZ WATER DOES NOT VOID WITHIN 1 HOUR OR HIS BLADDER MAY BURST! No, far from it, so Ed waited. Anyway, now he has this ball and chain Catheter and huge bag, plus increase in flomax Rx and Dutasteride added, both nasty Rx's. URO visit 5/28. No cancer dx yet, will push for further tests and specific MRI as Lou has helped us with. Thank you again, Lou! We are leaning toward "boring" or the "staple" procedure as Ed does not wish to stay on Dutasteride long term (25% increase in Prostate Cancer! And more likely Diabetese 2 to develop!). He's been on IVM as a precautionary measure since Dec 2023.

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Something REALLY positive re: IVM:

I just read an article by Justus Hope who recently interviewed Dr Marik re: his upcoming Cancer Care, 2nd Edition, IN WHICH, Justin writes, “IVERMECTIN IS MOVED UP TO TIER ONE AND NUMBER SIX as emerging evidence shows it has more potential cancer benefits than initially thought.”

Months ago Dr Marik had moved IVM to Tier 1 from Tier 2, and the table of contents reflected the body of the Cancer Care on line version, just as it remains now, it is #11 in the body of the 3/29/24 Cancer Care downloadable version. HOWEVER, as I have noted previously in the subscriber forum of FLCCC forum, for some reason the table of contents of the 3/29 version reverted to an older version from when IVM was only in Tier 2 and down around something like #22. I knew IVM had not been suddenly demoted from #11 back to #22!!!! Well, now it is evident, not only was that not the case, but IVM is being further elevated to #6 within Tier 1. This needs to be brought to Dr Marik himself because he would not want his table of contents misrepresenting the body of his current on line edition.

Note: I had messaged the moderator previously re: this issue, but it seemed evident she ran that by someone who, without investigating my concern and actually asking Dr Marik, just stated, well with more research things change all the time. UGH! I left the top portion of this post here on their public forum today, so hopefully it will be corrected in their on line version!

But this so pertains to the discussion here as we are all looking to add to our regimens that which has strong supporting evidence for fighting, even perhaps curing, cancer!

God bless!

Kira--fighting, along with God and FB and IVM, cavernous sinus meningioma (brain tumor) :)

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Lew ... I have Ivertul-12 and Ivermectol-12. Both of those are manufactured in India. Had Edenbridge from the COVID days and used the remaining of it. Edenbridge as I recall is manufactured in China. Truth is that most of the dead-patent drugs ( unprofitable ) are made in India or China. I have noticed that I have less BPH symptoms since adding Ivermectin to my treatment plan. The Petmectin IVM is Ivertul-12 and is properly packaged and labeled. In other words, it looks pharmacy shelf grade. I have gotten IVM from India as well, and frankly, the packaging all looks the same regardless of who it is from in India, just different names and different companies. One package of Ivermectol-12 came in the pharmacy shelf box with the typical paper insert you get that shows dosage, contraindications, etc.

I am on 24mg for the last several days and next week will go to 36mg daily. I can tell you that for me, 12mg IVM and 444 mg Fenben daily and my liver tests are all in the normal range, other than my FIB for fatty liver, it is elevated but that is not due to IVM or Fenben. I will go to 36mg soon and will liver test in 3 weeks to see what the AST/ALT and others are. For those looking to test outside of the medical arena, they can use LabCorp or Quest Diagnostics. I have a store front LabCorp blood draw facility a few miles from me that I go to. Of course insurance does not pay for it but my doctor would be disagreeable about FB and IVM anyway. Get an account at one of the companies, order and pay for the test, then go for the test. Easy and Simple.

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Lou, thanks very much for all this info and I wish you much success in your journey to health!

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I have looked for the answer but have not found it in any of the articles here. I recall reading that curcumin or quercetin should not be taken the same time as Ivermectin or perhaps it was Fenbendazole. Will someone please straighten my noodle out on this please?

I am taking 444mg Fenben and 24mg Ivermectin daily for prostate cancer and think I want to add a supplement or two. I am considering upping the Ivermectin to 35mg daily.

thanks,

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I am wondering how the dosage of fenbendazole for dogs is 22mg/lb but these human reports seem to indicate an effective dosage as low as 220mg/day which, assuming at least 100 lb. body weight, would amount to a mere 2.2 mg/lb (1/10th the dose!). I know there are all kinds of species differences when it comes to drug dosages but this seems quite a disparity.

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I do not know other than domestic animal dosage is generally limited to 1 to 3 days and then a hard stop. Human dosage is 3 times a week or more, and for multiple weeks/months. I know that at 1776mg daily my liver ALT was on the borderline of the high side. Dropping down to 444mg daily resolved that issue. I may go to 888mg daily in the near future.

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Exactly. And that is probably the explanation. Plus, when people like Joe Tippens were doing their self experimental thing, he had no idea how much a human could safely take, particularly for more than a few days. So, he wisely started with a puppy dose. Worked for him.

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Thank you! What ivm product do you use? I have BPH and read somewhere that it might be treated with 26mg once a week (130 lb. BW).

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Hey Lew .. I replied to you but fouled up and did it incorrectly. Look at the latest post and you will see my reply.

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My husband (86) has been diagnosed in the last month or two with prostate cancer that has spread to his bones. His is taking Fenben & Orgovyx. They also want to put him on Erleada & Xgeva. I am concerned about the side effects. But my main question is would the Fenben alone send the cancer into remission? We are told that the cancer is fed by testosterone and thus Orgovyx is needed to reduce his testosterone. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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Update: Saw my docs a few days ago, at my routine 3 month check-up. I remain undetectable for PSA, at < .05 ng/ml. This is about 2 years and 5 months since a PSA of 6 and the diagnoses of stage 4/wide spread mets. So, Praise the Lord, something continues to work much better than the studies I have read on the prescription drugs I am taking.

Also, two people appeared to have listened to me on this subject. Both stage 4 prostate cancer. I have not been able to find out if the 1st guy(an acquaintance at church) actually acted on getting FenBen and taking it, or not. He seemed anxious and enthusiastic to get the info, which I supplied him, but he has never confirmed to me that he acted on it. And I don't want to push him on that subject. He had a radical prostatectomy yesterday.

However, the next guy- a good friend living far away- jumped right on it. When I 1st heard about his problem, his PSA jumped a lot up to 4.34( IN EARLY FEB) with a prostate mass found on MRI(actually, he could feel the mass, which is what got him in for a check up). His medical team seemed really slow about getting a biopsy done and such as that. He had to raise some H to get er done. (They told him there was no hurry, it was slow growing!)

About the time he had his biopsy, he was Gleason 10(worst score) and that is when we finally talked. By April 1st PSA had increased 525% over 2 months to 21, and he started FenBen that day.

Yesterday he got his bone scans and CT scans: not as bad as I would have expected, nothing showed up in his bones and only 1 small mas on a lymph node. Plus his PSA had dropped 19% in 14 days. That seems significant to me. I don't think PSA - with an aggressive, G10, rapidly growing cancer- is expected to decrease AT ALL in just 2 weeks time unless you kill or remove some cancer cells. What it would be expected to do is increase by AT LEAST another 4 or 5 points in those 14 days. Instead, it dropped that number of points( and 19%). He had no other changes except taking FenBen and maybe some other OTC drugs and supplements with it, I do not know his details yet. But no medical treatment. So, it may be that the FenBen is already helping him a lot.

Yesterday, they started him on ADT injections, and he will soon start radiation therapy. I'm betting he will also continue with FenBen. This might be another one saved from an aggressive cancer, Lord willing! Praise the Lord!

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Great news

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Well done!

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Congratulations on the good news. I am still working at my PCa and reducing the tumor and indolent cancer cells. Fenben and Ivermectin are in use now.

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Mar 18Liked by Ben Fen

I have an appointment w my urologist in couple of weeks, I'll have a blood test prior to that, we'll see what the PSA will be then, God is in control!

Thank you all for chiming in. Have a blessed day!

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Best of luck!

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Amen 🙏

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Mar 13Liked by Ben Fen

FYI: FLCCC Dr Paul Marik just updated his Cancer Care: Ivermectin is now in Tier 1, just under Mebendazole (Fenbendazole)!! :) And they've honed in on a dosage, 12-18mg/day. I am stoked!!! And above all that Vit D3 at high dosages is their first priority in Tier 1: 20K-50K IU daily. Dr Kory on last week's FLCCC update (3/7/24) stated "Vit D has the biggest profit potential threat to big pharma and I think they know that." He went on to say, "We have research that no one really ever dies from Covid if your Vit D level (serum) is above 50 (ng/dl)." He said he immediately starts all his cancer patients on 30,000 IU Vit D3, then monthly checks their Parathyroid Hormone (PTH) levels and calcium levels. He said all this recent media hype about Vit D being toxic is "absurd."

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Great information on cancer and microparasites

https://www.excelwell.net/drugs

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Mar 12Liked by Ben Fen

Parasite Cancer: Breakthrough in Cancer Research?

For over 100 years there has been the theory that parasites could cause cancer or even “are the cancer”.

On March 28, 1891 an article was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association titled “IS CANCER A PARASITIC DISEASE?“

This theory was proposed by one of the world’s most famous physicians of all time, Nobel Prize winner Robert Koch (1843-1910).

As a microbiologist, the discoverer of anthrax and tuberculosis was perfectly clear in theory.

Dr. Wilhelm von Bremer, published the article “Krebs – eine Erregerkrankheit” [Cancer – a pathogenic disease] in the journal “Fortschritte der Medizin” back in 1932

In 1962, Dr. Alfons Weber stated that in every tumor tissue there are microparasites.

For the first time he was able to prove Robert Koch’s theory and published film recordings in which one can see the parasites in the tumor tissue.

In 1969 Alfons Weber wrote the book “About Causes of Cancer Diseases” (view the book here) and in 1970 wrote a monograph titled “Pathogenic Protozoa in Blood, in Tumors and Organic Tissues”

(The National Library of Medicine has a copy of the monograph that you can go view as they will not lend it out. Click here for info).

Alfons Weber countered by showing images in which the microbes actually caused the cell to burst, but shortly afterward they took over a new cell – quite normal for parasitic life forms, but impossible for cell organelles.

He also demonstrated that the microparasites multiply within the cell, which organelles do not.

He also provided proof that it was a microparasite:

In an experiment, Weber burned human blood under a 160-degree flame. All human cells were completely destroyed.

Weber added a glucose solution to the dead organ material and a short time later the microparasites were moving on the glass plate.

This experiment silenced all critics, but Weber’s research was still not recognized and hushed up in the future.

What does today’s science say about the topic?

The knowledge that cancer is caused by parasites has flared up again, thanks to the Russian chemist, epidemiologist and microbiologist Tamara Lebedewa.

Because she lost her entire family to cancer and none of her family members were cured by conventional medicine, she researched the disease “cancer” for 13 years.

Since she found that there was no causal cancer therapy in conventional medicine and the theory about “degenerate human cells” was never proven, she started her research from scratch.

Obviously, in 100 years of cancer research, no progress has been made. Why do you think that is?

Lebedewa found out that so-called cancer cells are actually unicellular parasites, called Trichomonas.

The flagellates have exactly the properties of so-called “cancer cells” and will be identified as such by every oncologist.

We all have microparasites but when the immune system is weakened parasites proliferate and start causing illness and disease throughout the body.

How do we acquire these microparasites? Dr Alfons Weber writes in his book, “About Causes of Cancer Diseases” that we can get them from mosquito or tic bites, water, soil, eating undercooked or raw meat or fish, sex, and from the mother through the umbilical cord when she is pregnant.

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Mar 11Liked by Ben Fen

Just want to throw this out there. Take it or leave it. The rapid cancers that are developing are supposedly due to the inflammatory effects of the spike proteins in your blood stream. Joe Tippens didn't have that problem...he just had cancer.

So for you step one is get rid of the spike proteins in your body. This is done by...

2000 FU Nattokinase (safe dose)

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOzpoa-M5Mo (Dr. Berg)

product purchase: https://www.amazon.com/Nutricost-Nattokinase-000FU-120-Capsules/dp/B09LRLLGCZ/ref=sr_1_9

Bromelain + Acetylcystein in combination inactivates SARS CoV-2

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiWjleODn4M (Elliot Overton)

product purchase: https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Bromelain-Digestion-Easy-Solv/dp/B00028O7CM/ref=sr_1_2_pp

product purchase: https://www.amazon.com/Broan-NuTone-Supplements-N-Acetyl-Cysteine-Molybdenum/dp/B000MGWFWI/ref=sr_1_5

Now once you have taken these first steps, simultaneously do Dr. Thomas Seyfreid's Metabolic Therapy. This therapy rapidly removes any cancer in your body by removing its feed source.

As simple as I can state it...

1. Remove all sugar from your diet

2. Fast by eating one healthy meal /day that does not contain any form of sugar

3. Take a drug that limits your production of Glutamine. It is impossible to remove Glutamine from your system since it is a critical amino acid used by the brain and other organs, but, you can severely limit it in your body so that your body uses it only in those areas it absolutely requires it. This leaves no excess Glutamine for cancer growth. Therefore the cancer dies and your fasting body eats the dead cancer as it does for all dead cells. Glutamine production in the body is limited by Fenbendazole or "DON".

https://www.caymanchem.com/product/17580/6-diazo-5-oxo-l-nor-leucine

https://fenbendazole.substack.com/p/cancer-stem-cells-and-fenbendazole

This is Dr. Thomas Seyfried talking about curing cancer with Metabolic Therapy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwCZ5il5tGY

One thing, I'm not a doctor, so do your own research. If I were in your shoes I wouldn't be using hospital prescriptions. They are notoriously watered down. Ivermectin cures Rosacea but if you use the prescribed jar of Ivermectin for $50, Ivermectin is listed as the 5th ingredient on the jar. This is because you have to buy 5 jars of the crap just to have any effect on the Demodex mites embedded in your skin. If you buy the veterinarian medicine it's full strength and the Rosacea is gone in one week. Hospitals, Pharmaceutical companies, and your family doctor are in it for the money. They are in the game to suck as much cash as they can out of your pocket before you die. Nuff said.

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Mar 10Liked by Ben Fen

I have a question: does anyone know if the author of the article, diagnosed with late stage prostate cancer, has taken any Covid vaccines? And if yes, what type and how many? If that is indeed the case, then his story is very promising. I say this because Dr. William Makis a Canadian oncologist, says that no traditional cancer treatments work on those who took the covid shots. I would really like to know the answer to that. Thank you.

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Yes, I took the 1st 2 vaccines(Pfizer) when available, and gave in and took the 1st booster roughly 6 months prior to my diagnoses with stage 4. I went fairly quickly from the last 2 Auxmin scans(more sensitive) showing nothing definite to, just a few months later, the less sensitive bone and CT scans showing wide spread mets: sacrum, pelvis, spine, rt shoulder(humerus) and lots of lymph nodes. This worsening took place less than 6 months after the booster and last scans. The latest (and less sensitive) scan were done because my PSA had begun rising/doubling so rapidly. My doubling time had become extremely hi risk within 6 months of the booster, FWIW.

Of course, we knew the cancer was growing due to a slowly rising PSA, which for the most part had been slowly and steadily rising for several years. But, repeated scans could find nothing. Until all of a sudden, even the less sensitive scans found a lot.

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Mar 10Liked by Ben Fen

I am so sorry for what you are going through. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope the information from this Substack will help you. My best wishes to you.

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Mar 10·edited Mar 10Liked by Ben Fen

"Dr. William Makis a Canadian oncologist, says that no traditional cancer treatments work on those who took the covid shots. I would really like to know the answer to that. Thank you."

I have seen him on Twitter many times. He is very good but can be extreme. I am not an MD, as he is. But I doubt this is true in all cases. If you (anyone) had bad reactions to the 3-4 C19 vaxxx you got. Then perhaps traditional cancer treatments will not work. But Febendazole can. My logic is that Ivermectin is #1 against Covid and against C19 vaxxx induced illnesses. Ivermectin, hi dose D3, plus zinc and a few more items, will kill the spike proteins, that C19 injections stimulate the body to produce. Fendendazole is in the Ivermectin zone.

Both are dewormers. They both heal the liver, same as ye old herbal dewormers. Max Gerson (look him up) cured cancer in the 1930s. He said "All cancers start in the liver". Meaning a very poorly functioning liver. The two main organs that purify and clean up your blood, are liver and kidneys.

So for the c19 vaxxx injected use fenbendazole and ivermectin. ------ This is just my take. I am not an MD. As always, do your own research.

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On Twitter, I see many who hope the c19 injected die. Mostly due to how some of the vaxxx refusers had a very difficult time with family and employment. Just yesterday on a conservative forum. A man declared he lost his $100,000 a year job due to vaxxx refusal.

When C19 vaxxx mania was high, many vaxxx enthusiasts wished doom on the refuseniks.

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Mar 10Liked by Ben Fen

Thank you for your detailed reply. Dr. William Makis wrote an excellent book, I think it's called " Cancer cure". I read it all, and it's worth reading it. Unfortunately, I think it looks like he's been right so far: that cancer treatments ( that we always used) are not working anymore in those who took the shots. He also says that those diagnosed with turbo cancers have between 6 to 12 months to live. I have an example in my own family: my sister in law. In 2018 sometimes in early November, gets diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer. She does the surgery and refuses the chemioterapie. She also find an alternative doctor that puts her on intravenous vitamin C, and others herbs and supplements. In less then a year, she's cancer free. And she stays cancer free until 2021 when the delusional mass injection starts. Her trouble starts after the booster shot, ( her last shot), but not imediately. In June 2023 she's diagnosed with terminal breast cancer( the famous turbo cancers). However, her misery is only starting: in January 2024, she's diagnosed with cancer lymphoma, and shorty after with another cancer related to her back. That last cancer literally paralyzed her in a matter of three weeks from the waist down. The worst part is that no treatment works so far. Like nothing! This is a family that is very difficult to help: her husband accused me of conspiracy theories when I told him not to take any Covid shots. And I told him that after he had a massive heart attack only two days after taking Moderna. They are both incredibly stubborn and I'm afraid impossible to help. The reason I inquire about cancer treatment is for someone else: my neighbor's father: he's 60 years old, in excellent shape all his adult life, took 2 Pfizer shots both in 2021. Last fall , 2023 he's diagnosed with terminal stage prostate cancer. Never had cancer before, and noone in his family. They are the nicest people you can meet. It's them I want to help. As for wishing the worst for those who took the shots, I will never do that despite the fact that my own family treated me badly for the " crime" of refusing an experimental injection. For many of them I feel great sadness because I'm afraid the worst is yet to come. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche predicts a " tsunami of severe ilnesses and deaths" in every single highly vaccinated country. The ones who are going to be severely affected by this tsunami will be those who took the shots. The unvaccinated ones who are in good health will not be affected by this.

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Mar 11·edited Mar 11Liked by Ben Fen

Amazing/not amazing how your sister in law went full alternative with intravenous C to cure her breast cancer. Obviously outside the box thinking by her. Then she and husband cave in to getting the C19 vaxxx. Not amazing because I have read about others who cure themselves via alternatives. Then go back to the conventionals and ....die.

"my neighbor's father: he's 60 years old, in excellent shape all his adult life, took 2 Pfizer shots both in 2021. "

He has lots going for him. Prostate cancer is not the worst. Liver and pancreatic are. They are center mass cancers. Prostate is on the periphery, so easier to cure. Terminal is only what the Docs say.

1- Tell him how your sister cured herself with massive "C" ---- See if you can get him on this.

2- Get him on ivermectin and Fenbendazole, 20-30 thousand D3 daily

3- Nattokinase to kill spike proteins --- What Dr Peter McCullough has the injured by C19 vaxxx do https://www.amazon.com/nattokinase/s?k=nattokinase Don't buy from rip off "Doctors Best"

4- Hyperbaric chamber to get his mind to open up and to cheer him up.

5- D3 will cheer him up too ---- Why it is called the sunshine vitamin -- 20-30 thousand D3 daily

6- I am not an MD. Everyone must do their own research!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIvcoVvXzug This is Kyle a professional mountain biker. He got very vaxxx injured. Most of his cure was hyperbaric chamber. He is very much back in action these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTJsn5UBkjQ tune in at 32 minutes in. KYLE--About his hyperbaric treatments (he got 40 of them) cured his vaxxx injury. Plus he did other thjings

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Mar 10Liked by Ben Fen

"On Twitter, I see many who hope the c19 injected die. Mostly due to how some of the vaxxx refusers had a very difficult time with family and employment. Just yesterday on a conservative forum. A man declared he lost his $100,000 a year job due to vaxxx refusal. "

I was close to retirement age as it was, my company threatened me with the clot shot and I told them to let me know when my last day was. That was on a conference call with a number of mgt people on the call. Turns out, a lot of people said the same and faced with with possible legal actions they backed down, other than the Federal Section. I retired about a year or so later. Everyone that I knew that got the clot shot, still got infected with COVID. I did not take the shot and never got COVID until much later after I had quit taking IVM and HCQ. Obviously, I survived the flu known as COVID.

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Way to go! I did not get the C19 vaxxx and never any bs flu shot. But I was not under pressure. You were. Guessing your pension is slightly higher due to no-vaxxx toughing it out! :)

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Mar 10Liked by Ben Fen

This is a decision you will never regret. I have the highest admiration and respect for everyone who refused to give in to blackmail and threats. They all deserve a medal for their courage and bravery.

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