Reiterating a question I posed elsewhere: Has anyone else been having abdominal pain and bloating from Fenben? The research says this occurs in 1-10% of those using Meben. I can't seem to handle 444mg, sadly (Abdominal pain @5-7, bloat @7-9). I do relatively well with 222mg caps of the FB from Fenben labs... The meben caps at 200 or 300 seemed to cause more upset, but that could be more the tablet form... Once I stabilize, I'll experiment with that again. Anyway, it's so discouraging. I want to kick butt on my brain meningioma, but I have to take baby steps with the FB!! GRRR!
The more I learn about "Natural Cures" the more disgusted I get with Modern Medicine. It blows my mind that so many people could be so greedy and deceptive as to charge literally 1000X for bullshit that they know doesn't work. Especially when many of them, supposedly "Educated" doctors should know these things. How is it that ordinary people are able to arrive at solutions on their own research even while doctors are eyeballs deep in never ending deception. It's as if all Western Medicine trained doctors are trained in "Deceprive Practice" for profit. Business as usual in a very corrupt EVIL world where ut seems to be kill or be killed. FRAUDS be damned.
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this part of your story with me, with us. Of course sad you have had to go through any of this, and also proud of you for being persistent and resourceful in going after the alternatives, doing your own research and adjusting things accordingly. This additional info is very helpful as my husband and I have begun engaging with our integrative Dr.
It is very alarming that a cancer in front of the prostate would be undetectable by DRE. Wow. We are attempting to get the ball rolling on the "Free PSA & T3MRI."
It's so good you're introducing FB and IVM when it's at stage 1. I am curious: the highest dose I've heard of FB prior to this, was 888mg, and that was for the very aggressive glioblastoma case shared here by that young man, whose tumor shrunk drastically to almost being completely gone. How did you come to using 1776, 8x 222mg? That sounds concerning to me. But I hear you've reduced to 444 due to higher end ALT (liver enzymes, right?).
My husband is currently on 24 mg IVM, which has been shown to at least stall out some cancers, not sure if IVM has potential to prevent. He was on 222mg FB, BUT his liver enzymes went up to 111! We are not sure it is the FB, (my liver panels came out great, and I've been on 222-444 depending on what my stomach can tolerate), but our Dr recommended dropping the FB until 1 mo after that lab (and yes we use labcorp). So, two wks to go. Makes me nervous his not being on FB right now while we're trying to figure out exactly what is going on with his prostate. Symptoms are getting a bit worse at times and he and I both don't like Flomax. Usually 1x/day works with 2x/day once per week, but he's had to increase the latter to twice a day 2x/wk, along with his 1x/day the other days.
Thank you for your prayers, Lou! We will be praying for you also and for a remarkable report in August!
I am avoiding the kitchen sinking approach for my self treatment for PCa. I decided I needed to know for myself, and for others, if fenben and ivermectin, on their own or combined, where effective for prostate cancer. There is a lot of data, some conflicting, some very likely fraudulent, and some very informative that caused enough concern for me to decide to proceed with caution.
In the last six months I have rarely taken any vitamins, and then only C and D3. I began with fenben and am now on a fenben + ivermectin regimen. I view this approach as a two prong approach to soft and solid tumors, metastasis, and BPH tissues.
OOPS, sorry, it was the drug watch site that you stated re chelating out, still point offered, they, too, are part of the medical industrial complex. BTW, FDA not only was warning about inflammatory conditions as a possible contraindication to Gadolinium, but their main warning was regarding a certain skin folding/tightening disease that is progressive and eventually lethal as it tightens all skin and tendons and muscles and will eventually prevent the diaphragm and lungs from expanding and contracting.
A few closing thoughts: we need to always consider WHO is giving what info and Cui bono? That is, who benefits? Of course the radiologist techno site will state that Gadolinium chelates out, or who would take it? but here is the research (and even the notorious FDA must now put a warning re Gadolinium for first time patients receiving MRI, see below):
MRI & Gadolinium References:
Gadolinium in Humans: A Family of Disorders,” Dr Semelka, et all propose that GBCA deposits in the body should be viewed as A New Disease Category , American Journal of Roentgenology August 2016; 207(2): 229-233, (Dr Semelka is the leading expert on Gadolinium Disease)
FDA, December 19, 2017, safety announcement, “…patients who may be at higher risk for gadolinium retention …These patients include …patients with inflammatory conditions…” FDA.gov December 19, 2017 Safety Announcement, (Most ALL cancer patients are generally inflamed)
Radiologists Conceal Heavy Metal Accumulation From MRIs (& Drs Conceal Dangers from Patients!)
MRI Gadolinium Toxicity, (& CRPS) An Update , Dr Richard Semelka’s Work Presented (Start at Min 48:08-1:25:00); ; Gadolinium retained throughout the body: 40% skin, 40% bone, 5% liver, 5% spleen, 2% brain… Chelating Gadolinium is extremely difficult and takes a specific process...
2004, Gibby Gadolinium retained in body with normal renal function; 2014, Kanda Gadolinium retained in brain tissue in patients with normal renal function
Gadolinium Deposition Disease: A Case Report and the Prevalence of Enhanced MRI Procedures Within the Veterans Health Administration;
D. Bradley Jackson, MDa,b; Terence MacIntyre, MSa; Vianey Duarte-Miramontes, MHAa; Joshua DeAgueroa,b,c; G. Patricia Escobar, DVMa,b,c; and Brent Wagner, MD// 218 • FEDERAL PRACTITIONER • MAY 2022mdedge.com/fedprac
Speaking of prostate that another member was asking me about further down in comments, regarding my husband’s prostate, a book my husband has found to be helpful is , Healing the Prostate, by Dr. Mark Stangler.
Thank you, Carol for your comments and especially your prayers! Much much appreciated! and I understand about the pressure thing… When they told me I had a brain tumor (12/21/24) they tried to rush me in the very next day —the Friday before Christmas— to get me on their cancer track! Ugh!
One thing regarding Marik’s book: go to the online version as he updated it on March 3, 2024 , and the one you can purchase on Amazon was October 2023 or earlier… Anyway, the tier 1,2,3 have changed significantly, and also he keeps adding more information onto the new one ,so I just printed the whole thing out all over again and just reread it! Talk about trying to keep up with the latest! 😆
In all your studies and research remember to live! (Note to self also!)
UPDATE re: Cancer & Autophagy. Dr Paul Marik states that for those suffering Cancer Cachexia, “a disorder characterize by loss of body weight with specific losses of skeletal muscle and adipose tissue,” that “Intermittent fasting/time restricted feeding should be avoided (except during chemotherapy); however, patients should avoid snacking between meals and should avoid eating within 3-4 hours before going to sleep (to promote autophagy wile sleeping).” Cancer Care, p. 43
Dr Marik adds that “the role of intermittent fasting and autophagy in cancer is complex.” He continues to say, “While autophagy may theoretically promote cancer cell proliferation multiple studies have demonstrated that autophagy leads to cancer cell death. Almost all the repurposed drugs listed in this monograph have been demonstrated to enhance tumor cell death by activating the autophagy pathway.” P. 46
AND NOTE: TWO OF THE REPURPOSED DRUGS LISTED AND IN ORDER OF EFFECTIVENESS AGAINST CANCER ARE #6 MEBENDAZOLE/FENBENDAZOLE and #7 IVERMECTIN!! , P.62 These activate autophagy, which is, according to Marik, a desired result which enhances tumor cell death.
Warning re: inhibiting (blocking) autophagy, a vital biological method for the body to rid itself of wastes and toxins, therefore to heal... and about Omeprazole, aka: Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI), the purple pill, and also Collagen.
FLCCC's Dr Paul Marik and his associate Scott Marsland, FNP-C, during their weekly update on 2/21/24, https://covid19criticalcare.com/lingering-long-covid-long-vax/ stated that when treating people for the plethora of physical ailments they encounter at their clinics in treating Long Covid and/or Long Vax, the first two questions Marsland asks new patients, "Are you taking Collagen?” and "Are you taking PPI / Omeprazole?" These two items are of utmost importance because they BLOCK FLCCC’s protocols for detoxifying and healing people from Cov19 spike protein (via the Gain of Function Virus, or the Covid injection).
Marsland stated that, “PPI’s are an incredible insult to the body. They reduce acid in the stomach to zero, AND they reduce acid in the cells themselves. They also block autophagy.” Autophagy, in the FLCCC world of healing Covid and Injection injuries and Cancer Care, is one of the PRIMARY things you SHOULD do for anti-cancer and anti-spike treatment. In Marik’s Cancer Care, pgs 44-47 are dedicated to the many reasons one wants to do Intermittent Fasting (IF) for autophagy to occur. IF promotes incredible healing benefits, not only for spikeopathy and cancer, but for a host of diseases, included type 2 Diabetes. See also Dr Jason Fung’s works, e.g., The Obesity Code, and Life in the Fasting Lane.
Therefore, I was quite alarmed when I read the comment farther down regarding a book promoting BLOCKING autophagy as a cancer strategy. I realize we will have many different opinions here, but the research is robust re: all the health benefits of fasting and autophagy. In fact, when someone is killing off cancer cells, via the horrible chemo/radio track or the anti-toxic track of taking Fenbendazole, the body will need to rid itself of the dead cancer cells. Autophagy helps the body do just that. So take this as an invitation to investigate several solid resources before purposefully blocking autophagy, and equally as bad or worse, adding the harmful Protein Pump Inhibitor drug!!
And finally, re: Collagen, another shocker for some: Marsland emphasized, “Collagen aggravates platelets,” “it is microclotting.” when we add it to our body. “Spike damages collagen. The problem is not too little Collagen, but that Collagen becomes overbuilt.” Watch the broadcast for more on this.
Scroll thru the uses and benefits including cancer. I don’t know if Dr Makis would ever see this but if u do please take a look. I would love to hear ur take. Rick
Off-topic, but has this Korean publication been discussed somewhere.
It describes the effect of FenBen on mouse lymphoma cells vs spleen cells, and also compares with VC (vincristine) a chemical used in treating cancers.
Reiterating a question I posed elsewhere: Has anyone else been having abdominal pain and bloating from Fenben? The research says this occurs in 1-10% of those using Meben. I can't seem to handle 444mg, sadly (Abdominal pain @5-7, bloat @7-9). I do relatively well with 222mg caps of the FB from Fenben labs... The meben caps at 200 or 300 seemed to cause more upset, but that could be more the tablet form... Once I stabilize, I'll experiment with that again. Anyway, it's so discouraging. I want to kick butt on my brain meningioma, but I have to take baby steps with the FB!! GRRR!
Most writers here have options to "Follow or Subscribe" it seems here it's Subscribe or not. Is it just me?
The more I learn about "Natural Cures" the more disgusted I get with Modern Medicine. It blows my mind that so many people could be so greedy and deceptive as to charge literally 1000X for bullshit that they know doesn't work. Especially when many of them, supposedly "Educated" doctors should know these things. How is it that ordinary people are able to arrive at solutions on their own research even while doctors are eyeballs deep in never ending deception. It's as if all Western Medicine trained doctors are trained in "Deceprive Practice" for profit. Business as usual in a very corrupt EVIL world where ut seems to be kill or be killed. FRAUDS be damned.
Lou,
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this part of your story with me, with us. Of course sad you have had to go through any of this, and also proud of you for being persistent and resourceful in going after the alternatives, doing your own research and adjusting things accordingly. This additional info is very helpful as my husband and I have begun engaging with our integrative Dr.
It is very alarming that a cancer in front of the prostate would be undetectable by DRE. Wow. We are attempting to get the ball rolling on the "Free PSA & T3MRI."
It's so good you're introducing FB and IVM when it's at stage 1. I am curious: the highest dose I've heard of FB prior to this, was 888mg, and that was for the very aggressive glioblastoma case shared here by that young man, whose tumor shrunk drastically to almost being completely gone. How did you come to using 1776, 8x 222mg? That sounds concerning to me. But I hear you've reduced to 444 due to higher end ALT (liver enzymes, right?).
My husband is currently on 24 mg IVM, which has been shown to at least stall out some cancers, not sure if IVM has potential to prevent. He was on 222mg FB, BUT his liver enzymes went up to 111! We are not sure it is the FB, (my liver panels came out great, and I've been on 222-444 depending on what my stomach can tolerate), but our Dr recommended dropping the FB until 1 mo after that lab (and yes we use labcorp). So, two wks to go. Makes me nervous his not being on FB right now while we're trying to figure out exactly what is going on with his prostate. Symptoms are getting a bit worse at times and he and I both don't like Flomax. Usually 1x/day works with 2x/day once per week, but he's had to increase the latter to twice a day 2x/wk, along with his 1x/day the other days.
Thank you for your prayers, Lou! We will be praying for you also and for a remarkable report in August!
Kira
https://open.substack.com/pub/2ndsmartestguyintheworld/p/petdazole-pharmaceutical-grade-pure-5a7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=pam5b
Hi Kim, do you have any experience with petmectin, as far as quality and delivery?
Thanks, Lou
I am avoiding the kitchen sinking approach for my self treatment for PCa. I decided I needed to know for myself, and for others, if fenben and ivermectin, on their own or combined, where effective for prostate cancer. There is a lot of data, some conflicting, some very likely fraudulent, and some very informative that caused enough concern for me to decide to proceed with caution.
In the last six months I have rarely taken any vitamins, and then only C and D3. I began with fenben and am now on a fenben + ivermectin regimen. I view this approach as a two prong approach to soft and solid tumors, metastasis, and BPH tissues.
Please all check out this incredible YouTube testimonial about Menbendazole!
https://youtu.be/unU8qGWQKgU?si=qDJ27VGTbz7Mm01i
OOPS, sorry, it was the drug watch site that you stated re chelating out, still point offered, they, too, are part of the medical industrial complex. BTW, FDA not only was warning about inflammatory conditions as a possible contraindication to Gadolinium, but their main warning was regarding a certain skin folding/tightening disease that is progressive and eventually lethal as it tightens all skin and tendons and muscles and will eventually prevent the diaphragm and lungs from expanding and contracting.
A few closing thoughts: we need to always consider WHO is giving what info and Cui bono? That is, who benefits? Of course the radiologist techno site will state that Gadolinium chelates out, or who would take it? but here is the research (and even the notorious FDA must now put a warning re Gadolinium for first time patients receiving MRI, see below):
MRI & Gadolinium References:
Gadolinium in Humans: A Family of Disorders,” Dr Semelka, et all propose that GBCA deposits in the body should be viewed as A New Disease Category , American Journal of Roentgenology August 2016; 207(2): 229-233, (Dr Semelka is the leading expert on Gadolinium Disease)
FDA, December 19, 2017, safety announcement, “…patients who may be at higher risk for gadolinium retention …These patients include …patients with inflammatory conditions…” FDA.gov December 19, 2017 Safety Announcement, (Most ALL cancer patients are generally inflamed)
Radiologists Conceal Heavy Metal Accumulation From MRIs (& Drs Conceal Dangers from Patients!)
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
Mercola.com , November 21, 2019
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/11/joseph-mercola/radiologists-conceal-heavy-metal-accumulation-from-mris/
FASCINATING: (& Alarming):
MRI Gadolinium Toxicity, (& CRPS) An Update , Dr Richard Semelka’s Work Presented (Start at Min 48:08-1:25:00); ; Gadolinium retained throughout the body: 40% skin, 40% bone, 5% liver, 5% spleen, 2% brain… Chelating Gadolinium is extremely difficult and takes a specific process...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDBSzm3fZvg
2004, Gibby Gadolinium retained in body with normal renal function; 2014, Kanda Gadolinium retained in brain tissue in patients with normal renal function
Gadolinium Deposition Disease: A Case Report and the Prevalence of Enhanced MRI Procedures Within the Veterans Health Administration;
D. Bradley Jackson, MDa,b; Terence MacIntyre, MSa; Vianey Duarte-Miramontes, MHAa; Joshua DeAgueroa,b,c; G. Patricia Escobar, DVMa,b,c; and Brent Wagner, MD// 218 • FEDERAL PRACTITIONER • MAY 2022mdedge.com/fedprac
Speaking of prostate that another member was asking me about further down in comments, regarding my husband’s prostate, a book my husband has found to be helpful is , Healing the Prostate, by Dr. Mark Stangler.
Thank you, Carol for your comments and especially your prayers! Much much appreciated! and I understand about the pressure thing… When they told me I had a brain tumor (12/21/24) they tried to rush me in the very next day —the Friday before Christmas— to get me on their cancer track! Ugh!
One thing regarding Marik’s book: go to the online version as he updated it on March 3, 2024 , and the one you can purchase on Amazon was October 2023 or earlier… Anyway, the tier 1,2,3 have changed significantly, and also he keeps adding more information onto the new one ,so I just printed the whole thing out all over again and just reread it! Talk about trying to keep up with the latest! 😆
In all your studies and research remember to live! (Note to self also!)
God bless you!! 🙏🏼
UPDATE re: Cancer & Autophagy. Dr Paul Marik states that for those suffering Cancer Cachexia, “a disorder characterize by loss of body weight with specific losses of skeletal muscle and adipose tissue,” that “Intermittent fasting/time restricted feeding should be avoided (except during chemotherapy); however, patients should avoid snacking between meals and should avoid eating within 3-4 hours before going to sleep (to promote autophagy wile sleeping).” Cancer Care, p. 43
Dr Marik adds that “the role of intermittent fasting and autophagy in cancer is complex.” He continues to say, “While autophagy may theoretically promote cancer cell proliferation multiple studies have demonstrated that autophagy leads to cancer cell death. Almost all the repurposed drugs listed in this monograph have been demonstrated to enhance tumor cell death by activating the autophagy pathway.” P. 46
AND NOTE: TWO OF THE REPURPOSED DRUGS LISTED AND IN ORDER OF EFFECTIVENESS AGAINST CANCER ARE #6 MEBENDAZOLE/FENBENDAZOLE and #7 IVERMECTIN!! , P.62 These activate autophagy, which is, according to Marik, a desired result which enhances tumor cell death.
Warning re: inhibiting (blocking) autophagy, a vital biological method for the body to rid itself of wastes and toxins, therefore to heal... and about Omeprazole, aka: Proton Pump Inhibitor (PPI), the purple pill, and also Collagen.
FLCCC's Dr Paul Marik and his associate Scott Marsland, FNP-C, during their weekly update on 2/21/24, https://covid19criticalcare.com/lingering-long-covid-long-vax/ stated that when treating people for the plethora of physical ailments they encounter at their clinics in treating Long Covid and/or Long Vax, the first two questions Marsland asks new patients, "Are you taking Collagen?” and "Are you taking PPI / Omeprazole?" These two items are of utmost importance because they BLOCK FLCCC’s protocols for detoxifying and healing people from Cov19 spike protein (via the Gain of Function Virus, or the Covid injection).
Marsland stated that, “PPI’s are an incredible insult to the body. They reduce acid in the stomach to zero, AND they reduce acid in the cells themselves. They also block autophagy.” Autophagy, in the FLCCC world of healing Covid and Injection injuries and Cancer Care, is one of the PRIMARY things you SHOULD do for anti-cancer and anti-spike treatment. In Marik’s Cancer Care, pgs 44-47 are dedicated to the many reasons one wants to do Intermittent Fasting (IF) for autophagy to occur. IF promotes incredible healing benefits, not only for spikeopathy and cancer, but for a host of diseases, included type 2 Diabetes. See also Dr Jason Fung’s works, e.g., The Obesity Code, and Life in the Fasting Lane.
Therefore, I was quite alarmed when I read the comment farther down regarding a book promoting BLOCKING autophagy as a cancer strategy. I realize we will have many different opinions here, but the research is robust re: all the health benefits of fasting and autophagy. In fact, when someone is killing off cancer cells, via the horrible chemo/radio track or the anti-toxic track of taking Fenbendazole, the body will need to rid itself of the dead cancer cells. Autophagy helps the body do just that. So take this as an invitation to investigate several solid resources before purposefully blocking autophagy, and equally as bad or worse, adding the harmful Protein Pump Inhibitor drug!!
And finally, re: Collagen, another shocker for some: Marsland emphasized, “Collagen aggravates platelets,” “it is microclotting.” when we add it to our body. “Spike damages collagen. The problem is not too little Collagen, but that Collagen becomes overbuilt.” Watch the broadcast for more on this.
Something else to research is found at ldnresearch.org
Scroll thru the uses and benefits including cancer. I don’t know if Dr Makis would ever see this but if u do please take a look. I would love to hear ur take. Rick
Off-topic, but has this Korean publication been discussed somewhere.
It describes the effect of FenBen on mouse lymphoma cells vs spleen cells, and also compares with VC (vincristine) a chemical used in treating cancers.
https://www.kjvr.org/m/journal/view.php?number=3907